Walhalla BEGINNERS TRIP EASY

Walhalla, VIC

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Following on from the beginners register post on the forum I would like to run the first of my trips aimed purely at the first timers to offroading. This is a trip that I ran last year in a stock 95 Pajero. Another beginner driver did it with me in a stock PX Ranger. I found it to be a wonderful learning route as it contains a lot of different types of terrain - rock, mud, loose shale, ruts, steeps. It has it.all - even a few gentle river crossings. I will be going through some briefing about correct use of tyre pressure adjustments, some essential techniques on performing recoveries, and I will be taking you through tracks that you would look at and think there is no way you'd be able.to drive them! Believe me, you can! 


 


As conditions can be unpredictable I will have a few routes planned, however I do insist that you come with at least a set of good tyres. Stock tyres that aren't worn are ok. Also, this is a trip for true 4wds. This means you must have selectable low range gearing. I am not going to demand that you have your own recovery equipment, but you will need a UHF radio. Hand-held is fine. 


 


There will be some daunting sections of this trip - I remember the first time I did the route and a few sections had my adrenalin pumping and nerves a little frayed. But the next time I did the same route I walked through it like it was nothing - this is the experience I want to share to help you develop your skills and confidence. 


 


I look forward to meeting you and seeing smiles on faces when you tackle something challenging and come out on top. 


 


We will camp at O'Tooles camp ground which has drop box toilets and a central gazebo, however you will need to be self sufficient with food, water and all other needs for the trip as there are no shops or fuel stations where we are headed.


 


FILL UP YOUR FUEL AT MOE OR TYERS!!! This is your last fuel stop. A full tank will do the round trip comfortably from there. Don't ruin it for others by running out of fuel. 


 


Any questions please feel free to ask. 

Requirement

  • Winston (Winston_FJ) I have mechanic skills Trip Leader - Level 5 (Completed over 46 trips) Premium Member

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    Driver + 1 AdultChecked-In (26-Dec-2016 10:53)
    TB48 Patrol GU6 ST-S (2008 Patrol)
    • 35" Tyres, 4" Lifted
    • Winch


  • Mark (Edge31)

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    Driver + 1 Adult
    Ranger Wildtrak (2015 Ranger Wildtrak)
    • 2" Lifted
    • Rear Diff Lock

  • Neil (nbokchoy)

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    Myself onlyChecked-In (26-Dec-2016 17:35)
    2012 SR5 (2012 Hilux SR5 Dual Cab)

    • Jason (Deimos)

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      VIRCON (2016 Triton)
      • 31" Tyres
      • Rear Diff Lock


    • Matthew (discomatt) I am first-aid qualified I have mechanic skills Trip Leader - Level 1 (Completed over 7 trips)

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      Driver + 1 AdultChecked-In (25-Dec-2016 20:19)
      V8 discovery with a couple of modds (1996 Discovery)
      • 33" Tyres, 2" Lifted
      • Winch

    • Frank (Franco3d)

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      Driver + 1 AdultChecked-In (26-Dec-2016 16:15)
      Jeep Wrangler 2.8CRD (2011 Wrangler)
      • 31" Tyres, 2" Lifted

    • Matt (FastFoo) I am first-aid qualified I have mechanic skills

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      Driver + 1 ChildrenChecked-In (26-Dec-2016 18:50)
      GRJ120 (2004 Prado)
      • 2" Lifted
      • Winch

    • () I have mechanic skills

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      Driver + 1 AdultChecked-In (26-Dec-2016 14:33)
      105 series petrol (2006 Landcruiser)
      • 35" Tyres
      • Front & Rear Locker
      • Winch

    • Julius (Mishka) Trip Leader - Level 1 (Completed over 1 trips) Premium Member

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      Myself onlyChecked-In (26-Dec-2016 11:34)
      Old MQ Patrol (1989 Patrol)
      • 33" Tyres, 2" Lifted
      • Front Diff Lock
      • Winch

    • Rick (Rick T) I am first-aid qualified Trip Leader - Level 1 (Completed over 1 trips)

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      Myself onlyChecked-In (26-Dec-2016 17:20)
      (2020 troopy)
      • 33" Tyres, 2" Lifted
      • Front & Rear Locker
      • Winch

    • Chris (Milney) Trip Leader - Level 1 (Completed over 1 trips)

      GOING
      Myself onlyChecked-In (27-Dec-2016 05:58)
      Workhack ranger (2020 Ranger)
      • 32" Tyres, 2" Lifted
      • Rear Diff Lock


    • Peter West (Trucker)


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      3ltr Gu y61 (2012 Patrol wagon)
      • 31" Tyres, 2" Lifted
      • Rear Diff Lock
      • Winch


    • Wayne (dragic) Trip Leader - Level 1 (Completed over 4 trips)


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      Nissan GU 4.5 petrol (AUTO) (1999 GU PATROL (Y61))
      • 33" Tyres, 2" Lifted
      • Winch

    • Dave (Digger5)


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      claps when we land (2013 Rg)
      • 33" Tyres, 4" Lifted
      • Winch



    • Darrell (Flexit)


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      FLEXIT (2009 GXL 200 Series)
      • 33" Tyres, 1" Lifted
      • Winch

    • Jason (FauxBogan) I had chainsaw training Completed Intermediate training Trip Leader - Level 4 (Completed over 36 trips) Premium Member


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      Shadow (2020 Power Wagon 75th Anniversary)
      • 35" Tyres, 2" Lifted
      • Front & Rear Locker
      • Winch

    • Sean (Sean32)


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      MK Triton (1999 Triton)
      • 31" Tyres
      • Winch

    • Kelvin (TREXGQ) Trip Leader - Level 6 (Completed over 83 trips) Premium Member


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      TREXGQ (1993 Patrol)
      • 33" Tyres, 3" Lifted
      • Front Diff Lock
      • Winch

    • Luke (lucus30) Trip Leader - Level 1 (Completed over 1 trips)


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      4.5 Petrol GU (1999 Patrol)
      • 33" Tyres, 2" Lifted
      • Front & Rear Locker
      • Winch

    • Alex (Np300_rx)


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      Rx np300 (2016 Rx np300 Navara)
      • 30" Tyres


    Alex (TEQ-80) Premium Member
    Have fun Winston, will have to catch up I haven't seen your new rig.
    08 Nov 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Cheers Alex. Yeah mate its been a while since I heard you say "I'll give my tyres a nice wash" on a One Speck. Be good to see you again out there sometime.
    08 Nov 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Great to see this trip fill quickly. Can I please reiterate though that this is a trip for first timers of 4wding. I will be spending a decent bit of time explaining the very basics of tyre pressures, high and low range gearing use, recovery techniques and more that is aimed for those that haven't done it before. If you have been offroad and know when to switch into low range or already know about airing down for your trip please wait for another trip aimed at those looking good to step up to a more intermediate level of driving.
    08 Nov 2016
    Steve (4WD_LYF)
    WITHDRAWN from Trip - Reason: I'm not new to offroad so I think its fair to give someone else a fair go. Steve
    08 Nov 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Thanks Steve.
    08 Nov 2016
    Don Clark (kmdc)
    WITHDRAWN from Trip - Reason: Hi guys,
    While I don't think I am that experienced a 4W Driver, I guess having done a Simpson Desert trip last year and doing the Canning next year does not make me a beginner either. So, as much as I'd like to do the trip I will withdraw and let someone else 'have a go'. Regards Don C...
    08 Nov 2016
    Matt (mvienna)
    Looking forward to learning the basics on this trip as I am new to 4x4.
    Cheers
    Matt.
    09 Nov 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Don - thank you. This trip is aimed at just they, giving the total newbies a chance to learn what they are capable of. Don't worry, I'll run several more trips aimed at stepping up from where you are to tackling some of the harder tracks.

    Matt- welcome on board. This trip will be ideal for you.
    09 Nov 2016
    Mark (Edge31)
    Winston,
    Is the O'Tooles campsite a free one that we just turn up to or do spots have to be booked?
    The only reason I ask is that my wife and I may stay on a day or so more after your trip finishes. Will probably be a make our mind up when we get there.
    Thank you
    Mark.
    (Edge31)
    25 Nov 2016
    Allan (allanmac) Premium Member
    Mark (Edge31) wrote: Winston,
    Is the O'Tooles campsite a free one that we just turn up to or do spots have to be booked?
    The only reason I ask is that my wife and I may stay on a day or so more after your trip finishes. Will probably be a make our mind up when we get there.
    Thank you
    Mark.
    (Edge31)
    Mark, O'Tooles is a free camp so '1st in best dressed'. Will be very busy the week between Xmas/New Year and even though it is just my opinion, has never been a place I like to stay as it does get full of 'ferals', but I guess the same can be said for many other areas.
    28 Nov 2016
    Damo (Midnightmods)
    I am keen to take the wife on her first 4x4 camping trip, if you could make room for the two of us, Ive been there a few years ago, We would love to come along too. But knowing how that location is in normal times, I wonder if we would get a spot during the peak of xmas?
    30 Nov 2016
    Matthew (discomatt)
    Any thoughts or actions regarding our discussions??
    08 Dec 2016
    Mark (Edge31)
    Winston
    Is the meeting point at the end of old depot road where it crosses happy jacks track in Rawson?
    Thanks.
    Mark.
    12 Dec 2016
    Matthew (discomatt)
    Looking forward to meeting some more members of the forum and sharing some 4wding techniques.
    Had better get the maps out and do some planning
    13 Dec 2016
    Matthew (discomatt)
    Hi Winston, did you get my PM?
    Extending numbers ?
    Give me a call
    14 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Updated numbers. Have Matt volunteering to run as a 2nd leader, and he is one of the most experienced drivers on 4wdtrip that I've met so we will have a wealth of knowledge for the instructionals. Also I am planning to run a 3rd day of touring the region, checking out the mines and historic huts etc of the area. May also include Deep Creek 1 and 4 for the adventurous. They used to be very difficult tracks but we did them recently and they are easy for a stock vehicle.

    Please let me know if you'd like to stay the extra night.
    14 Dec 2016
    Mark (Edge31)
    Winston (Winston_FJ) wrote: Updated numbers. Have Matt volunteering to run as a 2nd leader, and he is one of the most experienced drivers on 4wdtrip that I've met so we will have a wealth of knowledge for the instructionals. Also I am planning to run a 3rd day of touring the region, checking out the mines and historic huts etc of the area. May also include Deep Creek 1 and 4 for the adventurous. They used to be very difficult tracks but we did them recently and they are easy for a stock vehicle.

    Please let me know if you'd like to stay the extra night.
    As it stands at the moment Winston I am interested in staying the extra night.

    Cheers
    Mark.
    15 Dec 2016
    Matthew (discomatt)
    Thanks for the talk up Winston but I am sure there are plenty of more experienced and better 4wders than me...
    Glad to share the love of 4wding now I just have to try and live up to expectations:-0
    Looking forward to another trip in one of my favourite parts of the high country
    15 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Meeting place
    15 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Mark (Edge31) wrote:
    Winston (Winston_FJ) wrote: Updated numbers. Have Matt volunteering to run as a 2nd leader, and he is one of the most experienced drivers on 4wdtrip that I've met so we will have a wealth of knowledge for the instructionals. Also I am planning to run a 3rd day of touring the region, checking out the mines and historic huts etc of the area. May also include Deep Creek 1 and 4 for the adventurous. They used to be very difficult tracks but we did them recently and they are easy for a stock vehicle.

    Please let me know if you'd like to stay the extra night.
    As it stands at the moment Winston I am interested in staying the extra night.

    Cheers
    Mark.
    Cheers Mark, welcome to join us. The 3rd day will include some more challenging tracks but also involve more touring of the historic element of the region. There are several campsites we can choose from but I'm considering Merringtons as the primary choice. From there if the drivers are all up to it and weather is suitable we will attempt Toomstar Track - very steep and not for the faint hearted however if it's dry it won't be a problem. Then check out some of the mines and walhalla town and finish with deep creek 1 and 4.
    15 Dec 2016
    Michael (Trout)
    Winston (Winston_FJ) wrote:
    Mark (Edge31) wrote:
    Winston (Winston_FJ) wrote: Updated numbers. Have Matt volunteering to run as a 2nd leader, and he is one of the most experienced drivers on 4wdtrip that I've met so we will have a wealth of knowledge for the instructionals. Also I am planning to run a 3rd day of touring the region, checking out the mines and historic huts etc of the area. May also include Deep Creek 1 and 4 for the adventurous. They used to be very difficult tracks but we did them recently and they are easy for a stock vehicle.

    Please let me know if you'd like to stay the extra night.
    As it stands at the moment Winston I am interested in staying the extra night.

    Cheers
    Mark.
    Cheers Mark, welcome to join us. The 3rd day will include some more challenging tracks but also involve more touring of the historic element of the region. There are several campsites we can choose from but I'm considering Merringtons as the primary choice. From there if the drivers are all up to it and weather is suitable we will attempt Toomstar Track - very steep and not for the faint hearted however if it's dry it won't be a problem. Then check out some of the mines and walhalla town and finish with deep creek 1 and 4.
    Hello Winston and others,
    Looking forward to touring the area, learning from experienced campers/4w drivers.
    A third night sounds good but don't know if I can make it due to other commitments, can I play it by ear and let you know next week?
    Cheers Michael
    15 Dec 2016
    Liam (BeardMoto)
    Very interested and may consider this trip as a starting trip before continuing north toward Buller and Craig's hut.
    Anyone else interested in continuing on for a few additional nights?
    15 Dec 2016
    Mark (Edge31)
    Winston
    Is the idea that Matthew and yourself will instruct/lead half the group each as its now a lot bigger than originally posted or will it be done as a whole group at once?
    Regards
    Mark.
    16 Dec 2016
    Matthew (discomatt)
    Mark (Edge31) wrote: Winston
    Is the idea that Matthew and yourself will instruct/lead half the group each as its now a lot bigger than originally posted or will it be done as a whole group at once?
    Regards
    Mark.
    We are going to make the final call on group size and how to manage it once we see the level of experience and confidence on the more technical sections and how busy the tracks are.
    At a guess we will end up breaking into 2 groups but we will decide that as we go...
    We will be camping as one group regardless of how the days tracks are managed
    16 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    As Matt has said we will base it on driver comfort levels. Most likely 2 groups as a convoy of 14 is a handful to manage and also for oncoming vehicles to negotiate around. We will do the instructional side of things as one group.

    Can I get an idea of how many of you have air compressors and deflators?
    16 Dec 2016
    Jason (Deimos)
    Winston Champ thanks again for the invite cant wait been excited for this all month.. I may bring my brother with me if thats all good... interested in staying on another night but wont know if I can till later next week as have new born at home so I'll let you know...
    compressor and deflator I have.
    16 Dec 2016
    Mark (Edge31)
    Winston (Winston_FJ) wrote: As Matt has said we will base it on driver comfort levels. Most likely 2 groups as a convoy of 14 is a handful to manage and also for oncoming vehicles to negotiate around. We will do the instructional side of things as one group.

    Can I get an idea of how many of you have air compressors and deflators?
    I have a compressor and a set of deflators but they don't want to play nicely and won't work properly.
    16 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Mark (Edge31) wrote:
    Winston (Winston_FJ) wrote: As Matt has said we will base it on driver comfort levels. Most likely 2 groups as a convoy of 14 is a handful to manage and also for oncoming vehicles to negotiate around. We will do the instructional side of things as one group.

    Can I get an idea of how many of you have air compressors and deflators?
    I have a compressor and a set of deflators but they don't want to play nicely and won't work properly.
    If they're the Staun deflators they do take a bit of setting up and maintenance is crucial. No stress about them, may be able to help set them up for you if we have time at camp.
    16 Dec 2016
    Lorraine (Loopy)
    Winston (Winston_FJ) wrote: As Matt has said we will base it on driver comfort levels. Most likely 2 groups as a convoy of 14 is a handful to manage and also for oncoming vehicles to negotiate around. We will do the instructional side of things as one group.

    Can I get an idea of how many of you have air compressors and deflators?
    We have an air compressor and deflator.
    Do we bring everything to be self sufficient. If we are coming from Narre warren, what would we put into gps, just Thompson dam?
    16 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Hi Lorraine. Yeah basically bring everything you need, food, water, consumables and cooking gear. The camp-site is very basic, drop box toilets is the extent of amenities.
    16 Dec 2016
    Damo (Midnightmods)
    Winston (Winston_FJ) wrote: As Matt has said we will base it on driver comfort levels. Most likely 2 groups as a convoy of 14 is a handful to manage and also for oncoming vehicles to negotiate around. We will do the instructional side of things as one group.

    Can I get an idea of how many of you have air compressors and deflators?
    Have air compressor and inflator. Will we be crossing any water? Don't have snorkle and breathers installed just yet.
    16 Dec 2016
    Damo (Midnightmods)
    Its been years since I've been out, but wanting to take the wife on her first real trip, two of us in a tent coming from south east. Late 20s.
    Been away for the past few months so haven't been able to reply, hope its OK if we can still tag along?
    16 Dec 2016
    Michael (Trout)
    Damo (Midnightmods) wrote:
    Winston (Winston_FJ) wrote: As Matt has said we will base it on driver comfort levels. Most likely 2 groups as a convoy of 14 is a handful to manage and also for oncoming vehicles to negotiate around. We will do the instructional side of things as one group.

    Can I get an idea of how many of you have air compressors and deflators?
    Have air compressor and inflator. Will we be crossing any water? Don't have snorkle and breathers installed just yet.
    Hey winston
    Bokchoy and I will be sharing a air compressor and deflator.
    My Dmax and his hilux are standard with decent AT's
    Cheers Michael
    16 Dec 2016
    Frank (Franco3d)
    Jeep Wrangler crd the wife and I will be coming. Only really done some basic trails not real 4wding. Looking forward to it.
    Have new stock AT tyres but no compressor/deflators etc. basically a stock Jeep Wrangler.
    hoping this this will still be ok?
    16 Dec 2016
    Damo (Midnightmods)
    I'll be in a Rubicon and work on and rebuild the Crd Jk in my spare time, if you want to a check over the Jk before you head out frank inbox me.
    16 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Hi guys, great to have you all coming. No stress about compressors, we will have a few amongst the group and 4wding is all about sharing, I'm picking up a new compressor tomorrow that will have us all inflated in no time.

    Also re doing water crossings, yes there are a few shallow crossings, won't be an issue at all in any stock 4wd. We took the motoring.com.au team out there a few weeks ago in a totally stock Disco and there were no dramas.
    16 Dec 2016
    Kevin (riordak_ranger) Premium Member
    Sounds like anothrr great trip Winston, I am sure the newbies will have a ball. Enjoy the trip.
    17 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Kevin (riordak_ranger) wrote: Sounds like anothrr great trip Winston, I am sure the newbies will have a ball. Enjoy the trip.
    Cheers Kevin.
    17 Dec 2016
    Matthew (discomatt)
    was it a disco 4 you took out or the latest D5? wish I had have known about that outing
    17 Dec 2016
    Matthew (discomatt)
    All the stock cars will be ok, we will have a few spots where we may need to spot some cars over rocks so they don't damage anything.
    As far as river crossings there isn't anything to deep but if anyone is concerned a small tarp can do a great job as a car bra
    17 Dec 2016
    Michael (Trout)
    Winston (Winston_FJ) wrote: Hi guys, great to have you all coming. No stress about compressors, we will have a few amongst the group and 4wding is all about sharing, I'm picking up a new compressor tomorrow that will have us all inflated in no time.

    Also re doing water crossings, yes there are a few shallow crossings, won't be an issue at all in any stock 4wd. We took the motoring.com.au team out there a few weeks ago in a totally stock Disco and there were no dramas.
    Hey Winston how are you?
    Regarding the trip where do you think we may Finnish up on the 28th ?
    I may drive to dargo (mayford) to meet friends - yes I know it's a long way!! So still considering if it's worthwhile
    Anyhow thanks in advance
    Cheers Michael
    17 Dec 2016
    Michael (Trout)
    Hey Winston how are you?
    Regarding the trip where do you think we may Finnish up on the 28th ?
    I may drive to dargo (mayford) to meet friends - yes I know it's a long way!! So still considering if it's worthwhile
    Anyhow thanks in advance
    Cheers Michael
    17 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Matthew (discomatt) wrote: was it a disco 4 you took out or the latest D5? wish I had have known about that outing
    Think it was a 4. Pretty flash.
    17 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Michael (Trout) wrote: Hey Winston how are you?
    Regarding the trip where do you think we may Finnish up on the 28th ?
    I may drive to dargo (mayford) to meet friends - yes I know it's a long way!! So still considering if it's worthwhile
    Anyhow thanks in advance
    Cheers Michael
    Hi Michael, great here and yourself?

    My plan is to finish on the 28th by driving up Bridle Track (not on google maps but runs off Merringtons from the big intersection near the camp ground) to Walhalla Rd, from there it's an easy drive out. We will be staying an extra night and all are welcome to do the same, with the aim of tackling a couple of harder tracks the following day and also spending some time exploring the township and some of its historical features.
    17 Dec 2016
    Mark (Edge31)
    Winston
    I have uploaded a couple of photos I took today when we went for a drive out to the Thomson Dam, Walhalla, O'Tooles campsite area.
    Are the photos of the place we are to meet up at the start?
    18 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Not quite. You were at the other end of the wall. I've just uploaded a google maps sat image with a dropped pin of where we will meet.
    18 Dec 2016
    Mark (Edge31)
    I saw that area as we came round the corner but was too interested in the dam and wall etc to pay too much attention. Thank you for the info.
    O'Tooles looks a nice area. Met Grumpy there today, he was doing some repairs to the central gazebo and reckoned we'd have no problem with space on the 27th.
    Then had a quick look at Merringtons campsite too.
    18 Dec 2016
    Julius (Mishka) Premium Member
    Winston (Winston_FJ) wrote:
    Michael (Trout) wrote: Hey Winston how are you?
    Regarding the trip where do you think we may Finnish up on the 28th ?
    I may drive to dargo (mayford) to meet friends - yes I know it's a long way!! So still considering if it's worthwhile
    Anyhow thanks in advance
    Cheers Michael
    Hi Michael, great here and yourself?

    My plan is to finish on the 28th by driving up Bridle Track (not on google maps but runs off Merringtons from the big intersection near the camp ground) to Walhalla Rd, from there it's an easy drive out. We will be staying an extra night and all are welcome to do the same, with the aim of tackling a couple of harder tracks the following day and also spending some time exploring the township and some of its historical features.
    Hi Winston, i would like to come along on this trip as a tail and Charley, if there is a spot ?? But i would like to participate in the introduction of 4x4 driving as you do,, for about 10 to 12 min. Not as a trip leader, just as a Charley. If no room, no harm. cheers.
    18 Dec 2016
    Damo (Midnightmods)
    Extended forecast for weather is 37 over the 3 days. Its going to be really hot at dry, so remember to bring enough water.
    18 Dec 2016
    Frank (Franco3d)
    Damo (Midnightmods) wrote: Extended forecast for weather is 37 over the 3 days. Its going to be really hot at dry, so remember to bring enough water.
    Check your pm damo
    19 Dec 2016
    Damo (Midnightmods)
    Unfortunately I have to work, so I'm going to have to pull out.
    Looking forward to attending the next trip.

    Frank if you still want a check over, pm me.
    19 Dec 2016
    Damo (Midnightmods)
    WITHDRAWN from Trip - Reason: Have to work, see you on the next trip
    19 Dec 2016
    Kevin (riordak_ranger) Premium Member
    Well the weather says it will be bloody hot , I know Winston will be fully aware of the fire restrictions, that's not the worry. Please to all the newbies take plenty of water and cold beer for the end of the day to wash down the dust. Winston wont need that because he wont see any dust......lol
    19 Dec 2016
    Matthew (discomatt)
    IF it is in the mid 30's for the weekend I suggest everyone makes sure your car is 110% good with NO issues. When its that hot and the steep tracks and lower oxygen levels at the high altitude ( yes it does make a difference ) your car will be working twice as hard as normal so if anything in the engine, transmission or diffs is not right more than likely it will fail.
    Ah it will be alright will not cut it...
    19 Dec 2016
    Lorraine (Loopy)
    I am a bit thick, but what do we put into the gps. I thought it was the old depot road, Wahalla but having trouble finding where to meet. I looked at your pin drop but still did not understand. We will be coming from berwick
    19 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    We are still a week out and vic high country weather can change its mind rapidly.

    Yes, water is essential in abundance. Yes, check over your vehicle and if you have any concerns then don't risk your luck as a recovery out there WILL cost thousands and also potentially ruin the groups trip.

    Lorraine, the meeting point has changed to suit the group size. It is at the eastern end of the thompson dam wall. Just plug Thompson dam into google maps and you can't go wrong.
    19 Dec 2016
    Jason (Deimos)
    Hey guys...

    This is my 1st High Country trip, but thanks to old school maps and a GPS 'm "usually" good navigating. lol..

    I'm coming from Gladstone Park so if anyone from this area would like to meet up locally early in the morning we can have a kick start coffee and start the convoy early and drive up together.

    Perhaps if the General Winston is still coming from Broadmeadows he can lead the troops on the black top too.

    Let me know if anyone is interested and we'll organise a mini pre-trip meeting point around this side of town.
    19 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Hahaha Damo no I've oh so sadly parted ways from broady... am in Eltham these days.

    If anyone wants to meet earlier we have chosen BP in Officer as an easy locale previously.
    19 Dec 2016
    Matthew (discomatt)
    I am happy to meet up with people anywhere along the freeway after Narre Warren, or at the Moe Maccas on the freeway exit, will hit the freeway at about 7.00 and Moe about 8.00
    19 Dec 2016
    Matthew (discomatt)
    Winston (Winston_FJ) wrote: Hahaha Damo no I've oh so sadly parted ways from broady... am in Eltham these days.

    If anyone wants to meet earlier we have chosen BP in Officer as an easy locale previously.
    That a nice change in surroundings
    19 Dec 2016
    Matthew (discomatt)
    Just been looking at all the forecasts and 30-33 seems to be as hot as it will get, not to bad and a swim at the end of the day will be awsome
    19 Dec 2016
    Lorraine (Loopy)
    Matthew (discomatt) wrote: I am happy to meet up with people anywhere along the freeway after Narre Warren, or at the Moe Maccas on the freeway exit, will hit the freeway at about 7.00 and Moe about 8.00
    I will type in winstons Google directions but would rather meet you at the Macca at moe if okay. Hubby won't yell at me if I get lost. Thanks
    19 Dec 2016
    Lorraine (Loopy)
    Winston (Winston_FJ) wrote: We are still a week out and vic high country weather can change its mind rapidly.

    Yes, water is essential in abundance. Yes, check over your vehicle and if you have any concerns then don't risk your luck as a recovery out there WILL cost thousands and also potentially ruin the groups trip.

    Lorraine, the meeting point has changed to suit the group size. It is at the eastern end of the thompson dam wall. Just plug Thompson dam into google maps and you can't go wrong.
    Downloaded the map and found it finally. Many thanks.
    19 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Hi all, with only a week to go before our journey one thing I really want to reiterate is the importance of having enough fuel. We will only be covering about 60-80km per day on dirt, however motors will be working harder to cover that distance and you will chew up gas. For those only doing the 2 days with us a full tank at Moe will be suffice, however depending on the size of your tank if you plan to join us for the 3rd day you may need to carry a reserve. I always carry a full jerry of unleaded and will help out if needed but if you're in a diesel rig then I'm of no use.

    Again, not something to panic about - just be aware of what your vehicle will need.
    20 Dec 2016
    Matt (mvienna)
    WITHDRAWN from Trip - Reason: I Now have to work these days so im gonna miss out. Have fun.
    20 Dec 2016
    Frank (Franco3d)
    Anyone recommend or suggest what kind of uhf radio I should buy. I was thinking a handheld one. Is that the right way to go?
    20 Dec 2016
    Sean (Sean32)
    Frank (Franco3d) wrote: Anyone recommend or suggest what kind of uhf radio I should buy. I was thinking a handheld one. Is that the right way to go?
    My brother in law swears by Midland, now I have a pair and so does my old man. The 3W one is a great buy. Good range and clarity, 80 channel, high and low power transmission settings.
    21 Dec 2016
    Jason (Deimos)
    I was in the same boat as you...
    Depends on ya budget. I did a bit of research and from what I can see If you go a handheld u best looking at a 5W but most round the $200 + mark ....
    I bit the bullet and said fk it n dropped $400 today and ordered mine online from Gadget City... It may be a lot but I know it was a good price on the unit I got.

    I liked the features on the Uniden 8080s and got it with a dual high mount ariel one 6.5db and a 3db for the city and hills.
    Can add a wireless hand piece that works upto 100m away from ute. And it comes with an inbuilt scanner (if that's even worth it)....

    I've been a bit too impulsive lately I think... I've been Getting carried away and just spending
    21 Dec 2016
    Lorraine (Loopy)
    WITHDRAWN from Trip - Reason: Have decided not to come as my husband had his appendix out 4 weeks ago and still having a lot of pain daily. Going to doctors to ask for an X-ray to see why. Really wanted to come so hope there will be another opportunity. Sorry to do this at this stage
    21 Dec 2016
    Matthew (discomatt)
    Sorry you have had to pull out so close to the trip Lorraine, all the best for your hubbies recovery and hope he is on the mend soon.
    Don't worry about missing this trip there will be more later in the new year.
    Have a great Christmas and see you on another trip
    21 Dec 2016
    Allan (allanmac) Premium Member
    Hope you all have a great trip. Am sure the newbies to 4wding will get some valuable advice/tips from both Matt and Winston. Fingers crossed that O'Tooles is not chockers and that it is not too bloody hot.
    22 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Cheers Allan. I went there the same dates last year and o'tooles was quite empty.

    Yeah it's going to be warm for sure. 32, 37 and cooling off on Thurs with 26 and a possible shower.
    22 Dec 2016
    Rick (Rick T)
    Hi all, This is my first post on the site but have been following with great interest. After days of whining to the wifey I finally got the go ahead to come along. The only thing I know about 4WDing is what I've seen on TV and a couple of small day trips. I'm really grateful for the chance to learn and enjoy all I can about our great out doors. Look forward to meeting you all. Merry Xmas.
    22 Dec 2016
    Matthew (discomatt)
    Ha Ha you can pretty much forget most of what you see on TV, that is so set up and edited to make it look exciting to the viewer it is a fair bit removed from reality.
    Bring your wife along as well, most of the group are bringing partners.
    22 Dec 2016
    Rick (Rick T)
    Sue just got a promotion and can't get Wednesday off. I'm sure she'll be interested on future trips thanks Matthew. Only problem is she'll want to drive my ute, dunno if I can cope with that haha
    22 Dec 2016
    Matthew (discomatt)
    Ah bloody work getting in the way of life again, I know your pain, we had to put a hold on a month overseas trip next year due to work complications :-(
    22 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Welcome on board Rick.

    As Matt said the reality is vastly different from what you see on TV unless you start really pushing it and doing hard trips. However the reality is also much more daunting that you imagine when you are starting out. Which is why you're in the right place.

    Will be a great few days for everyone. I love driving these tracks and experiencing the natural beauty of vic high country. I'm sure memories will be made.
    22 Dec 2016
    Rick (Rick T)
    Thanks Winston, I promise I'm no cowboy, but love a challenge. My wife and I are both psych nurses and insist on safety first. I've never been to the Vic high country but have had it on the to do list. I was really happy to come across this site and hope their will be many new friends and trips in the future.
    22 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    It's a magical place for those of us who are 4wders. I still reminisce about my first trip to Walhalla! And 2nd. And 3rd. Hahaha.

    And yeah you're in the right place for many friends and trips. I've made lifelong friends through 4WDTRIP and the opportunities to go driving are endless. Looking forward to meeting you.
    22 Dec 2016
    Rick (Rick T)
    Cheers to that. Me too!
    22 Dec 2016
    Sean (Sean32)
    I'll be withdrawing my interest from the trip fellas, organised a trip of my own in the high country. For those who this is their first trip, you're going to an amazing area and perfect for a first time - you will have adrenaline pumping at times and enjoying a leisurely cruise at other times, with heaps of great views! May meet up with you at some point. Merry Christmas and enjoy.
    22 Dec 2016
    Frank (Franco3d)
    Any good fishing areas around the area we are going to?
    23 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Not really Frank. The camp-site is beside a creek - there may be some trout in there but it's pretty small. To be honest I've never explored fishing in the area. Been too busy exploring the tracks and historic sites.
    23 Dec 2016
    Darren Gray (Landcruiser2510)
    WITHDRAWN from Trip - Reason:
    24 Dec 2016
    Darren Gray (Landcruiser2510)
    WITHDRAWN from Trip - Reason:
    24 Dec 2016
    Chris (Milney)
    I'm in. Last minute(ish) but just keen to get away and explore.

    Merry Christmas :)
    24 Dec 2016
    Amanda (navaraluv27)
    WITHDRAWN from Trip - Reason: Merry Christmas everyone!
    We've been looking forward to this for so long, but unfortunately have to pull out at the last minute due to the heat. The little one doesn't do very well in extreme temps, so for now, its probably best we sit this one out. Enjoy everyone! Wish we were with you
    25 Dec 2016
    Jason (Deimos)
    Merry Chriatmas all and be safe ...

    Only 2 sleeps to go... Gonna be a scorcher so as it's been said before make sure your well stocked with H2O and your rig is 100% ... Those engines gonna be working even harder especially if the AC is on full.

    Also as I've mentioned... Im coming from tullamarine so if anyone from this side of the woods wants to meet up in the morning and drive up together let me know
    25 Dec 2016
    Mark (Edge31)
    Has there been any mention anywhere of fire bans or bush fire threats in the areas?
    Bit concerned about being in the middle of the forest in the temperatures of today and the next few days.
    25 Dec 2016
    Chris (Milney)
    Couple of websites to keep an eye on:

    http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/total-fire-bans-and-ratings/

    http://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/
    25 Dec 2016
    Matthew (discomatt)
    Sadly the bush fire risk is very real and with the heat, strong winds and variable weather in the high country it will be a risk that we will keep an eye on before and during the trip.
    If there are any last minute thunderstorm warnings Winston and myself will assess whether it is still a safe and viable trip.
    I am constantly checking the latest conditions and will keep all informed, feel free to put up any thoughts or concerns.
    Merry Christmas from Matt and Liza
    25 Dec 2016
    Matthew (discomatt)
    Each day the weather is looking better, the hot days are now reduced so the hottest we should get is high 20's or at the hottest low 30's, the thunder storm risks are now gone with only possible showers each day.
    It was the mid to high 30's and thunder storms and lightning risk I was concerned about so now I am a lot more relaxed and think we will have a great weekend weather wise, hopefully a few showers will come through to reduce the dust.
    Looking forward to meeting you all and catching up with some old friends.
    26 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Hi guys as Matt said weather is looking ok. Having been watching the synoptic charts closely I would anticipate we will have quite a few showers across the trip, which will mitigate the fire risk considerably but we do need to be wary not to park in long grass with hot exhausts and also keep a close eye out for the signs of dry lightning. With the route we are taking I know the quickest exits towards main roads so in the off chance of dangerous conditions I will call it with no hesitation and leave the area. I also have a full extinguisher in the event of a small fire breaking out directly in our groups area.

    I don't believe we are at risk and your safety is my number 1 priority so I am still looking forward to a great trip.
    26 Dec 2016
    Michael (Trout)
    Good on you Winston
    Thanks for the update.
    26 Dec 2016
    Jason (Deimos)
    Also i have 2 extinguishers and some 1st aid training.
    26 Dec 2016
    Kevin (riordak_ranger) Premium Member
    Winston (Winston_FJ) wrote: Hi guys as Matt said weather is looking ok. Having been watching the synoptic charts closely I would anticipate we will have quite a few showers across the trip, which will mitigate the fire risk considerably but we do need to be wary not to park in long grass with hot exhausts and also keep a close eye out for the signs of dry lightning. With the route we are taking I know the quickest exits towards main roads so in the off chance of dangerous conditions I will call it with no hesitation and leave the area. I also have a full extinguisher in the event of a small fire breaking out directly in our groups area.

    I don't believe we are at risk and your safety is my number 1 priority so I am still looking forward to a great trip.
    You will have worries at all, little bit of rain forecast will make the trip even more fun. Have a great trip guys Looking forward to the trip reports and photos.
    26 Dec 2016
    Julius (Mishka) Premium Member
    I'll cook a good Hungarian chicken paprika on the first night, so let me know how many interested, so that i know how much i have to bring----you don't want it,,,you don't get it. Its only for the friendly atmosphere.
    26 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Julius that's very nice of you. I would love a taste but I'm just taking a couple of forks worth as I've never had Hungarian chicken.
    26 Dec 2016
    Mark (Edge31)
    Julius (Mishka) wrote: I'll cook a good Hungarian chicken paprika on the first night, so let me know how many interested, so that i know how much i have to bring----you don't want it,,,you don't get it. Its only for the friendly atmosphere.
    Hi Julius.
    My wife and I have never eaten Hungarian chicken or been on a group 4x4 trip so its a trip of firsts for us so as you have been kind enough to offer we would love to share some of your chicken. Many thanks for the offer.
    Mark and Caroline.
    26 Dec 2016
    Rick (Rick T)
    Julius (Mishka) wrote: I'll cook a good Hungarian chicken paprika on the first night, so let me know how many interested, so that i know how much i have to bring----you don't want it,,,you don't get it. Its only for the friendly atmosphere.
    Julius, count me in. Let me know if you need me to bring anything. I don't drink alcohol but I've got lots of Coke Zero. Thank you mate.
    26 Dec 2016
    Matthew (discomatt)
    Yep I will give some Hungarian chicken a crack, not a whole meals worth because we have heaps of Christmas left overs. Thanks for the offer
    26 Dec 2016
    Michael (Trout)
    Hi Julius,
    Thank you for the offer. I have food already prepared but I will definitely have a taste if that ok.
    Look forward to a chat.
    Michael.
    26 Dec 2016
    Matt (FastFoo)
    Boris (PX2 Wildtrak) wrote: Hey guys is anyone else bringing there kids along to keep my boy 9yo company.
    Hi Boris
    14 year old daughter is coming with me.
    In fact this is our first 4X4 trip with a group and almost first time camping.
    So we are a bit nervous but very excited and looking forward to meeting you all.
    Julius the Hungarian chicken sounds wicked! so I ould love a taste, not sure if the daughter will be so keen though.
    MATT
    26 Dec 2016
    Julius (Mishka) Premium Member
    All good, so that is about 7 interested in the old chicken, some wants to lick it some wants to eat it, fine by me,-----i'll eat it. See yous up there
    26 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Thanks Julius for your generosity.

    Matt (fastfoo) and all others who are feeling nervous- don't worry, the aim of this trip is to have safe fun, not to scare anyone off 4wding ever again. And I am very firm in saying that we will cater for the least comfortable driver throughout the entire trip. That means that if you encounter a situation you aren't comfortable with and don't wish to proceed, we as the entire group will halt and take an alternative route. Peer pressure causes accidents and I don't endorse it whatsoever.

    All going to plan tomorrow we will only cover about 25-30 km on dirt as I'm thinking it will be a pretty intense day for everyone and lots of information to absorb. Get into camp mid afternoon and relax.

    Have a good sleep all and see you tomorrow morning!
    26 Dec 2016
    Julius (Mishka) Premium Member
    All good buddy, i have never done an easy trip before, i'm coming alone to help the others or just for the camping, as i said im happy to be TAC.
    26 Dec 2016
    Jason (Deimos)
    Thanks guys great trip... Beginner trail hahahaha. Looking forward for the next trip. Good to meet you all.
    Hope those who stayed on didn't get caught in the bad weather...

    And rember take it easy on those mud holes they can be a rippa.
    28 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Hi all! Not long back from the trip. Hope everyone enjoyed it as much as I did. Thank you all for coming along and also a massive thanks to Matt, Julius and Jason for their assistance and sharing their advanced experience. And Julius - your chicken is welcome along any time!
    28 Dec 2016
    Frank (Franco3d)
    Big thanks to Winston, Matt, Julius and Jason for all your hard work and the rest for the great company. We enjoyed the trip and we found it to be informative and well organised. Hope to see some familiar faces again sometime soon. On the way back my wife said "so what do we need to buy for our car so we can go again". Looks like we will be going shopping soon :)
    29 Dec 2016
    Matt (FastFoo)
    Thanks HEAPS for a great trip guys!!
    I thought that being an easy beginners trip it might be boring.
    WOW! was I wrong.
    The first track we did was the biggest river crossing I had ever done and then some of the steepest climbs and descents.
    I would not have attempted these without the guidance of the experienced guys running the trip and I thank you so much of this.
    My daughter and I had a ball (although she was not too impressed with the toilet at the campground)
    We were however very impressed with Julius's chicken and his big snake ;)
    Winston, it was a perfectly run trip and a great group of people.
    Matt, I hope you did not take too much offence to the Land Rover dags and I hope to do a harder trip with you someday, if it is any consolation my Toyota had an ABS light come on just after talking about reliability (Kama sucks)
    I don't think it is a big deal and I can't wait to do it all again.
    Thanks again guys.
    It was Awesome!!!
    29 Dec 2016
    Matthew (discomatt)
    I am glade you everyone enjoyed the trip and had a memorable couple of days. Its great to get the feedback on what people learnt and how the trip rating went.
    No offence taken with the Landy gags I get them every time I go out, I do find it absolutely amazing that the old girl doesn't break down every outing given how unreliable Land Rovers are and for the life of me I can't understand why anyone would own one ;-)
    I hope your ABS light isn't a big issue, check your wheel bearings, if they are to loose it can set the lights off and also check the sensor hasn't slide up out of the housing and the wires haven't been damaged by a wayward stick.
    The Disco is cleaned, post trip checked, no issues and ready for the next adventure :-)
    See you out on the tracks
    30 Dec 2016
    Matthew (discomatt)
    Jason keep in mind that Trav and myself have been playing with Disco's for a while and have done a lot of work to ours to make them what they are. Land Rovers are nowhere near as bad as what a lot of people think but they do have there quirks and if you get a bad one it will be the death of you. If you want one I would advise you do a lot of reading on AULRO to learn the product and if not worried about towing the 300TDI would be my advice with a Disco 1
    30 Dec 2016
    Trip Leader Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
    Thank you all for the high praise. I'm so glad that you guys had a great time, and that you took away new skills and confidence that will hopefully carry on to future trips that you either join or run yourselves. It really was an enjoyable trip for me and seeing the smiles on faces really made it a wonderful experience for me. I loved seeing everyone conquer tough challenges and I hope to see you all on future trips. And I'm really impressed with how everyone rose to the task of driving some solid tracks- you all deserve kudos for how well you progressed throughout the trip.
    30 Dec 2016
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    TRIP COMPLETED

    13 GOING, 14 Interested
    18 adults , 2 children (20 in total)
    Trip Date
    27-Dec-2016 (Tue) to 28-Dec-2016 (Wed)

    Meeting Point
    Thomson dam wall, eastern end of the wall at the wide open gravel space
    9:00 AM (Tue, 27-Dec-2016)