Convoy Procedures

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Robert
Robert (Rigger64)
26 May 2014

Here is a revoistion of the sfuff we were talkinf about tell what you think..

Convoy Procedures.


1. Each Convoy will contain a “Trip Leader” who will lead the convoy and coordinate the trips activities for the group. 


2. The Trip Leader is to brief the convoy members at the commencement of the trip on the day’s events and organise the convoys members to maximise control and communication.

2.1. If possible, the lead vehicle and the last vehicle (TEC) should be the most capable vehicle in the convoy (preferably with winch)

 2.3. Convoy members should identify themselves to the drivers of the vehicles directly in front, and behind them when the convoy is established.


3. The Trip Leader will advise the convoy whenever they are to enter a new track or road.


4. The Trip Leader is to decide when the convoy is to disperse.


5. Each convoy shall contain a nominated “Tail End Charlie (TEC)”.


6. TEC will advise the trip leader whenever they enter a new track or road.


7. If there is a breakdown, everyone will wait and the Team Leader will organise assistance.


8. When travelling along busy thoroughfares, leave sufficient room for other vehicles to overtake safely.

8.1. When there are on coming vehicles, the lead vehicle should inform everyone. 


9. When turning into a new track or road, each member is to ensure that the vehicle directly behind him or her has identified the correct route. They will acknowledge by flashing their lights or communicate that they have entered said Track/Road.


10. Each member is to maintain their position in the convoy at all times, except in unavoidable circumstances and then after having advised the Trip Leader.

10.1. When driving in a dusty / foggy condition, a reasonable space between vehicles should be maintained to give a clear view ahead. Headlight should be turned on as well. 


11. At a river, creek or water crossing, each member is to wait until the vehicle preceding has negotiated the obstacle before proceeding.


12. Avoid travelling too close to the vehicle when ascending or descending steep hills. At the discretion of the Trip Leader, the individual convoy members may be required to wait until the preceding indicates that it is clear to proceed.


13. In the interest of conservation, convoy members are to remain on gazetted or marked tracks.


14. No vehicle shall leave the convoy unless the Trip Leader has been informed.


15. A safe distance should be maintained whilst recovery equipment is in use, this especially applies to winch cables and snatch straps.

15.1. Avoid any dangerous manoeuvre (e.g. sudden acceleration), which may result in losing control. 

15.2 .If possible, driver should NOT leave their vehicle with the engine running when stopping at a steep hill.

15.3. If the driver does need to leave the vehicle, the engine should be stopped with the handbrake ON and engaged & in 1st Low.  “We should NEVER rely on the handbrake”. 

·         If you are not confident or do not wish to attempt any part of an event, it is your responsibility to inform the Team Leader.

·         In the event of vehicle recovery it is the vehicle owners responsibility to approve recovery attachment points.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kelvin
Kelvin (TREXGQ)
27 May 2014

That's good Rob....I will add a few more points later today..... I think it's good to know the procedures no matter how experienced you are. 

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Peter
Peter (tankbloke)
27 May 2014

Great idea Rob.

Perhaps  somewhere else there could be a Disclaimer, re liability for trips through this site,that  would give the trip leader and the forum some  degree of protection.

Not sure if Kelvin hasn't covered it off elsewhere, or if it is even nessesary, was just a thought.

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Kelvin
Kelvin (TREXGQ)
27 May 2014

There are few more points I can think of. They may be more than just convoy procedures, but still good to know. 

  1. When driving in a dusty / foggy condition, a reasonable space between vehicles should be maintained to give a clear view ahead. Headlight should be turned on as well. 
  2. When there are on coming vehicles, the lead vehicle should inform everyone. 
  3. If possible, the lead vehicle and the last vehicle should be the most capable vehicle in the convoy (preferably with winch)
  4. Avoid any dangerous manoeuvre (e.g. sudden acceleration), which may result in losing control. 
  5. If possible, driver should NOT leave their vehicle with the engine running when stopping at a steep hill. If the driver do need to leave the vehicle, the engine should be stopped with the handbrake ON and engaged in 1st Low. We should NEVER rely on the handbrake. 

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Kelvin
Kelvin (TREXGQ)
27 May 2014

Great idea Rob.

Perhaps  somewhere else there could be a Disclaimer, re liability for trips through this site,that  would give the trip leader and the forum some  degree of protection.

Not sure if Kelvin has......

Good idea Peter. I think we can compile a "Trip Guideline" rather than just call it "Convoy Procedure". This should cover everything we need to ensure the safety of all the participants. 

I will add a link to the trip page so that you can easily download it and view it. 

 

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Robert
Robert (Rigger64)
27 May 2014

Great idea Rob.

Perhaps  somewhere else there could be a Disclaimer, re liability for trips through this site,that  would give the trip leader and the forum some  degree of protection.

Not sure if Kelvin has......

Good thought there Peter.

I spose that it would only need to be something along the lines of that.

Disclaimer.

By taging along on this trip you do so at your risk & hold no responabilty for damage or loss to the team leader or this website/forum.

just my 2 cents worth less Tax & GST..

 

So who's up for the trip on the 29th of june??

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Robert
Robert (Rigger64)
27 May 2014

I have revised the stuff we were talking about tell me what you think is it good or does it Stink??

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Kelvin
Kelvin (TREXGQ)
28 May 2014

I have revised the stuff we were talking about tell me what you think is it good or does it Stink??

Thanks Rob, can you send the file to me via private message. I will take a look. 

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Looks good guys, 

 

can I add one, have one or two identified and designated first aiders. Spread them throughout the convoy. 

 

Cheers

 

jacq

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Jamie
Jamie (PradoPower)
29 May 2014

Hi guys, as a newbie to the forum can I please ask - do we complete this form for each trip we do?

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Kelvin
Kelvin (TREXGQ)
29 May 2014

Hi guys, as a newbie to the forum can I please ask - do we complete this form for each trip we do?

Hi mate, welcome to the site! 

No, I don't think we need to formalise it to that extend. It depends on the organiser. We want to make it easy for anyone to run a trip. Since we are not a club, it is a community event. It is no different from how others are organising trips through the forum. 

The main advantage of using 4wdTrip is that everything related to the trips are well sorted out and organised. You can see our first trip to get an idea what it's like. We also implement many features to ensure a better experience for everyone. For instance, we will automatically send out trip reminder 24 hours before the trip commence with all the details about the trip leader, and their contact details. 

Having said that, we will implement something on the trip page so that everyone should at least know the trip guideline. 

Also, the organiser (the person who post the trip) may not necessarily be the trip leader. There are many occasions that other 4wders who join the trip may lead the trip on that day if they are more experienced and more familiar with the area. 

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Robert
Robert (Rigger64)
29 May 2014

Hi guys, as a newbie to the forum can I please ask - do we complete this form for each trip we do?

At the moment we are just throwing ideas around.

If you have any thought please feel free to add them.

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Robert
Robert (Rigger64)
29 May 2014

Hi mate, welcome to the site! 

No, I don't think we need to formalise it to that extend. It depends on the organiser. We want to make it easy for anyone to run a trip. Since we are not a club, it is a community event. It is ......

Totaly Agree there Kelvin.

Like the first trip we did i lead for a while then you lead then when we teamed up with the other crew one of them lead.

Now that was a great day.

Like i was saying we are just throwing ideas around & seeing what otheres think.

So put your 2 cents worthin.

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Jamie
Jamie (PradoPower)
29 May 2014

Suggestion: I think the rules for convoy are (only my opinion of course) a little too long and can perhaps be consolidated a bit. 95% of 4wd'rs know the ways of a convoy and a simple run through them by the trip leader at the start of the day for any newbies would be sufficient.

 

In saying that, there should be some commonsense rules that should be applied to trips whether they are off road or highway trips.

I would reccomend that as the administrator, you start a post within the trips thread and post the trip rules for everyone to read. Ideally, if this could be locked so it's the first thread always - would be good.

Each member who wishes to participate on trips should read, accept and achknowledge the rules before attending their first outing.

Somewhere on your profile you could add some kind of marking to say you acknowledge the rules. Could be a simple (A) at the end of your name will do, thus negating the need to acknowledge for every trip.    yes

 

That way the person/s who are organising the trip are aware that you have signed off on them. If not, then they can suggest to the member to do it before the trip.

 

As to the rules, I think most of what you have up top is usable, the main one of course being the indemnity when on trips as you are only an online forum and not a registered club. I will offer more suggesting as I go along and you can weigh the merits of them and use (or not use) if you like.

 

Thanks guys, hope I have been helpful.

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Kelvin
Kelvin (TREXGQ)
29 May 2014

Suggestion: I think the rules for convoy are (only my opinion of course) a little too long and can perhaps be consolidated a bit. 95% of 4wd'rs know the ways of a convoy and a simple run through them by the trip leader at the start of the d......

Good point I think what you suggested "Somewhere on your profile you could add some kind of marking to say you acknowledge the rules." is great. I will look into that. 

Rob, prehaps you can remove the "sign off" part from your original post to prevent any misunderstanding from the new members. It's up to you. 

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