Beginners Trip EASY / MEDIUM

Tallarook, VIC


Hi All.  This is a trip for beginners only. It will be on Saturday the 29th August.  The tracks will be easy to moderate.  We will be doing 2 X 2hr drives.  In addition, we will be doing some demonstrations on safe use of snatch straps, safe use of winches, safe vehicle recovery and different convoy procedures.  A few new members have been asking for this trip, so it is for newer people and the driving will be gentle and relaxed.  If you are a driver that wants a faster pace or is wanting to go ripping through bog holes, then this is not the right trip for you. This trip is purely for the inexperienced with tyres that are 33"or less.


Kelvin and myself will split the drives into two groups of 5 and go in different directions.  Only members of the site that have booked into the trip are welcome (please don't bring additional vehicles).



Please post any questions.  I have uploaded maps on how to get there in the files section.



 


Requirement

  • Recovery Gear
  • Tony

  • Tony (le Dakar) I am first-aid qualified Trip Leader - Level 1 (Completed over 3 trips)

    GOING
    Myself onlyChecked-In (27-Aug-2015 21:28)
    GU Patrol 4.8 (2004 GU Patrol)
    • 35" Tyres, 2" Lifted
    • Front & Rear Locker
    • Winch
  • Andrew

  • Andrew (whipit) Trip Leader - Level 1 (Completed over 5 trips)

    GOING
    Driver + 1 AdultChecked-In (27-Aug-2015 21:53)
    3.0 Diesel STX Navara (2012 Navara)
    • 32" Tyres, 2" Lifted
    • Winch

  • Troy (Dawizard)

    GOING
    Driver + 1 Adult + 2 ChildrenChecked-In (28-Aug-2015 08:07)
    Landcruiser prado gxl (2015 Prado gxl)
    • Tc

    • Tc (toncastr) I am first-aid qualified

      GOING
      Myself onlyChecked-In (28-Aug-2015 09:19)
      xxxx (2015 yyyyyy)
      • 31" Tyres
      • Rear Diff Lock

    • ()

      GOING
      Myself onlyChecked-In (27-Aug-2015 20:00)
      . (2011 .)
      • Chris

      • Chris (jeep12)

        GOING
        Driver + 1 AdultChecked-In (29-Aug-2015 07:05)
        Toyo 19 (2019 Landcruiser)
        • Winch
      • Martin

      • Martin (BT50driver)

        GOING
        Driver + 1 AdultChecked-In (27-Aug-2015 16:33)
        Mazda BT50 (2008 BT50)
        • 32" Tyres, 2" Lifted
        • Winch
      • Chris Burr

      • Chris Burr (Wiskey Girl) I have mechanic skills

        GOING
        Driver + 1 AdultChecked-In (28-Aug-2015 20:00)
        PX Ranger, 3.2 Diesel Common Rail, 6 speed manual (2013 Ranger)
        • 2" Lifted
        • Rear Diff Lock
        • Winch

      • Daniel Cini (Tritonglxr) I am first-aid qualified

        GOING
        Driver + 3 ChildrenChecked-In (29-Aug-2015 07:52)
        Triton GLX-R (2014 Triton)
        • 30" Tyres
        • Rear Diff Lock
      • Antony

      • Antony (Peloza79) Trip Leader - Level 5 (Completed over 43 trips) Premium Member

        GOING
        Myself onlyChecked-In (28-Aug-2015 15:38)
        Vdj79 landcruiser (2013 Landcruiser)
        • 33" Tyres, 2" Lifted
        • Front & Rear Locker
        • Winch
      • James

      • James (4gunner)


        I am Interested / In Waiting List
        T4RUNA (1993 4runner)
        • 30" Tyres, 2" Lifted
        • Rear Diff Lock
      • Ants

      • Ants (Ants)


        I am Interested / In Waiting List
        Amp'd (2014 Wrangler)
        • 32" Tyres
      • Musti

      • Musti (boss200) Trip Leader - Level 1 (Completed over 2 trips) Premium Member


        I am Interested / In Waiting List
        VDJ200 (2016 landcruiser 200)
        • 35" Tyres, 3" Lifted
        • Front & Rear Locker
        • Winch
      • Colin

      • Colin (Col_and_Nic)


        I am Interested / In Waiting List
        XDRTYX (1995 PATROL)
        • 33" Tyres, 3" Lifted
        • Front Diff Lock
        • Winch
      • David

      • David (su888)


        I am Interested / In Waiting List
        150 Series (2012 Prado)
        • 32" Tyres, 2" Lifted
        • Winch
      • Garreth Mackie

      • Garreth Mackie (mackie)


        I am Interested / In Waiting List
        Everest 3.2L Duratorq (2015 Everest)
        • 32" Tyres, 2" Lifted
        • Rear Diff Lock
      • Peter

      • Peter (Wildtrack)


        I am Interested / In Waiting List
        2015 Ford Wildtrack Ranger (2014 Ranger)
        • Front & Rear Locker
      • Andrew Wale

      • Andrew Wale (awale)


        I am Interested / In Waiting List
        Jeep (2014 JK Wrangler)
        • 33" Tyres, 3" Lifted
        • Front & Rear Locker
        • Winch
      • Scott

      • Scott (Stonekillerz)


        I am Interested / In Waiting List
        Tb 42 duel fuel wagon (1996 Patrol)
        • 33" Tyres, 2" Lifted
      • Wayne

      • Wayne (Vitaraman)


        I am Interested / In Waiting List
        Sandy J (2012 Fj cruiser)
        • 32" Tyres, 1" Lifted
        • Rear Diff Lock
      • Kim

      • Kim (knowles)


        I am Interested / In Waiting List
        3 litre diesel (2003 patrol)
        • Phil

        • Phil (Lingus) I had chainsaw training


          I am Interested / In Waiting List
          2020 Ford Ranger, 3.2 Diesel 4x4 (2020 Ranger)
          • 33" Tyres
          • Rear Diff Lock
        • Shane

        • Shane (Shaggy)


          I am Interested / In Waiting List
          Triton (2010 Triton)
          • 32" Tyres, 2" Lifted
          • Front & Rear Locker
          • Winch
        • Nick

        • Nick (TOPTEC)


          I am Interested / In Waiting List
          Ranger Wildtrak PX (2015 Ranger)
          • 35" Tyres, 2" Lifted
          • Winch
        • Chris

        • Chris (Chris200)


          I am Interested / In Waiting List
          200 Series Landcruiser (2015 200 Series Landcruiser)
          • 33" Tyres, 2" Lifted
          • Winch
        • Kelvin

        • Kelvin (TREXGQ) Trip Leader - Level 6 (Completed over 83 trips) Premium Member


          I am Interested / In Waiting List
          TREXGQ (1993 Patrol)
          • 33" Tyres, 3" Lifted
          • Front Diff Lock
          • Winch

        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        Hi guys what recovery gear would be mandatory for this trip?
        19 Jul 2015
        Tony
        Trip Leader Tony (le Dakar)
        Hi All. Can't believe this booked out so fast. Can I get a rough idea if your thinking of camping out and doing the Sunday.
        You dont have to camp out to do the Sunday (you can go home and return in the morning if you wish).
        19 Jul 2015
        Tony
        Trip Leader Tony (le Dakar)
        Yes Winston. At the very least, all members should at least have a snatch strap and rated shackles.
        19 Jul 2015
        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        My wife and I are thinking of it. Weather depending and also the difficulty of the tracks you are looking at for day 2.
        19 Jul 2015
        Tony
        Trip Leader Tony (le Dakar)
        I forgot to mention in the trip write up- Rated recovery points front and rear are mandatory (not tie down points). If you are unsure of what you have, please feel free to email me. Kind regards Tony.
        19 Jul 2015
        Leigh
        Leigh (Mux)
        WITHDRAWN from Trip - Reason: Don't have front rated recovery points
        19 Jul 2015
        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        Pretty sure I'm covered for front and rear. Have a winch bar (no winch though) with tow points and will be buying a tow bar shackle for the trip.

        Had a similar event with a snatch joined to a chain due to access distance up in Cairns. Shackle luckily hit the tailgate rather than through the rear screen.
        19 Jul 2015
        Jason
        Jason (FauxBogan) Premium Member
        You didn't waste any time taking advantage of my Mt Dis routes did you.
        19 Jul 2015
        Tony
        Trip Leader Tony (le Dakar)
        Don't think we will be doing your loop Jason. Especially the Stoney Creek track. Will find a few gentler tracks.
        Although I do want to run a Hard Trip though your loop later in September.
        19 Jul 2015
        Troy (Dawizard)
        Tony,

        we will plan to do both days, depending on the Sunday plans. We won't be camping however :)

        Front recovery points on and car booked in for its towbar (overdue) so should be all covered

        Thanks for setting this up
        Troy
        19 Jul 2015
        Kelvin
        Kelvin (TREXGQ) Premium Member
        Hi everyone, I have amended the trip to put "Winch" as Recommended. I understand that this trip is for beginners. However, winch is one of the most important (long term) accessories any 4wders should invest. They are getting cheaper and cheaper. If you can fit a winch before this trip, it would be great. If not, that's ok too. It's definitely for your own safety.
        19 Jul 2015
        Kelvin
        Kelvin (TREXGQ) Premium Member
        Thank you for joining the beginner trip. If possible, can you tell us whether you will be coming for 1 day (Sat) or 2 days (Sat & Sun) and whether you will be camping on Sat night or not.
        19 Jul 2015
        Andrew
        Andrew (whipit)
        Tony (le Dakar) wrote: Hi All. Can't believe this booked out so fast. Can I get a rough idea if your thinking of camping out and doing the Sunday.
        You dont have to camp out to do the Sunday (you can go home and return in the morning if you wish).
        Hi Tony, we plan to do the 2 days and camp out if the weather gods allow us
        19 Jul 2015
        Martin
        Martin (BT50driver)
        Talking to my wife tonight, and if we are going we will be doing day one of the trip and drive home afterwards (my wife doesn't like camping :P).
        19 Jul 2015
        Chris
        Chris (jeep12)
        Hi looking at doing both days depending on the wheather as to whether we stay over night or not
        19 Jul 2015
        Musti
        Musti (boss200) Premium Member
        Ahhh its full already tony😣 i wanted to come n camp
        19 Jul 2015
        Tony
        Trip Leader Tony (le Dakar)
        There will be more trips coming.
        19 Jul 2015
        Megan Mclaughlin (Rnaway)
        Tony (le Dakar) wrote: There will be more trips coming.
        Looking forward to getting on a beginners trip, keep them coming please
        20 Jul 2015
        Colin
        Colin (Col_and_Nic)
        Looking forward to a beginner trip so Nicole can get some 4 wheeling practice so I don't always have to drive.
        Just a shame this one was on her Saturday at work.
        20 Jul 2015
        Martin
        Martin (BT50driver)
        Can only do the Saturday trip because my wife can't swap a shift with someone on Sunday :(
        Will have a chainsaw with me, after me having to turn around 3 times in the Cathedral ranges 2 weeks ago because of fallen trees, i had enough of it and bought one.
        20 Jul 2015
        Tony
        Trip Leader Tony (le Dakar)
        Hi all. Both Kelvin and myself have had some other commitments that conflict with the Sunday. As such we have decided to make this trip for the Saturday only. Our apologies for those looking forward to camping out. There will be plenty more trip coming up. See you all on the Saturday. Kind Regards- Tony.
        21 Jul 2015
        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        If anyone is interested in continuing for the camping and Sunday trek I'm quite keen. I'm not overly familiar with the tracks but I'm sure we can do some research and exploring if the interest is there.
        21 Jul 2015
        David
        David (su888)
        Given the interest in the Beginners run, is there any chance of running two groups so others can join?
        21 Jul 2015
        Tony
        Trip Leader Tony (le Dakar)
        David (su888) wrote: Given the interest in the Beginners run, is there any chance of running two groups so others can join?
        Hi David. We have hit the set maximum for this one. However there will likely be more to follow.
        22 Jul 2015
        Stephen
        Stephen (Phtfox)
        Gday all. New to this site. Signed up yesterday and click that i wanted to go. Not to sure wether im accepted or not. Sounds like a mad trip and would be hell keen to spend the night. Cheers
        22 Jul 2015
        Tony
        Trip Leader Tony (le Dakar)
        Hi Stephen. Welcome to the site. This trip was open to 10 participants and booked out in 20 minutes. Based on this, we are highly likely to run some more soon. Keep an eye on your emails. You have to be quick. Looks like a huge GQ you have there.
        Hope to meet you on a trip soon. Kind Regards- Tony.
        22 Jul 2015
        Stephen
        Stephen (Phtfox)
        How come use make not so many rigs? Wouldnt the more be better?
        22 Jul 2015
        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        More rigs = more stopping to make sure everyone gets through safely and more videos being taken and potentially more recoveries. Let's say you tackle a challenging track that with 5 cars and no recoveries takes about an hour. The lead vehicle goes through first and runs through it in sections. After each challenging section typically they will pull up at a safe place and get out of the vehicle and walk back and be on the radio to assist guiding the next vehicle through if needed and also to warn the following vehicles if there is a hold up or hazard.

        Now picture how long it would take with 10 cars. It would be more than double the time.

        Then imagine if you had to do recoveries.
        22 Jul 2015
        Tony
        Trip Leader Tony (le Dakar)
        I agree with Winston. Unfortunately more vehicles become unmanageable, to the extent that participants then start complaining about the constant stopping and starting throughout the day.
        It is up to the Trip Leader to set a limit of participating vehicles that they feel comfortable with. Some Trip Leaders on this site limit their trips to 4 vehicles, while others are comfortable with 12-15.
        It should also be noted that every member of this website has the opportunity to lead a trip themselves (and set their own limit of vehicles that can attend). If every member lead just 1-2 trips per year we would have hundreds of trips to choose from.
        22 Jul 2015
        Stephen
        Stephen (Phtfox)
        Yeh didnt see it like that makes sence cheers fellas
        22 Jul 2015
        Tony
        Trip Leader Tony (le Dakar)
        Mark (Yarra_Ranger) wrote: Well put Tony, obviously with my lack of 4x experience it would be a bit silly for me to lead a trip, but looking forward to the time when I can.
        Out of curiosity why don't more people lead trips? Is it a PIA? I really have no idea what's involved.
        My time to learn Mark- What is a PIA ?
        I think there are people that underestimate their ability to run a trip. A few weeks ago an easy trip was posted up to WoodPoint. Just a wander around and it still filled up. My advice to anyone is to try running an easy trip first. It could be wander around one of our many state forests, with lunch at a picnic ground. Once you get your confidence up, then you can pick more challenging destinations. Also, don't think for one minute that we automatically pick trips where we already know an exact route. I will spend one day the weekend before our Beginners trip driving around the area and working out an exact route so that the Beginners trip goes smoothly. It takes a lot of planning, but like everything else in life- You get get out of it what you put in in the first place. I would be happy to help any person plan a day trip- especially if it was their first.
        Cheers.
        22 Jul 2015
        Anthony Willis
        Anthony Willis (XxAntxX)
        WITHDRAWN from Trip - Reason:
        23 Jul 2015
        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        For those just starting out with recovery gear I just bought an 11t snatch and 2x4.7t shackles, a 5t tow hitch and an 8t equaliser bridle for 150 all up. The gear isn't that expensive. It's a lot cheaper than the consequences of not having it.
        23 Jul 2015
        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        Haggled and bought from a retailer. Not online.
        23 Jul 2015
        Scott
        Scott (Stonekillerz)
        Im in the process of saving for my runva 11xp winch for my gq. For $50 more than buying a 4wd supacentre i think it will be worth it.
        23 Jul 2015
        Martin
        Martin (BT50driver)
        Just got a new winch bar and winch, fitting it coming Saturday.
        Factory seconds winch bars are super cheap, got the deluxe bar with fog lights for almost half price compared to the Ironman deluxe winch bar :)
        10 Aug 2015
        David
        David (su888)
        What brand are you talking about?
        10 Aug 2015
        Martin
        Martin (BT50driver)
        hi David,

        I don't know the brand but here is the ebay link to it http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/OX-4X4-MAZDA-BT-50-2007-2011-HEAVY-DUTY-BULL-BAR-/271953364422?hash=item3f51af05c6
        You can just go there and pay with visa etc without going thru ebay.
        The winch is a I-max http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/12V-12000LBS-5454KGS-Wireless-Steel-Wire-Cable-Electric-Winch-4WD-ATV-BOAT-TRUCK-/251550204901?hash=item3a918f83e5
        Don't know if it is allowed to put ebay links on this forum, if not pls delete this link moderators.
        10 Aug 2015
        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        Hi guys will there be some people that could share their compressor to refill before the hit sealed roads? I haven't bought one yet - it's on my to do list but just haven't been able to afford it yet.

        For anyone that needs it at the start I have Staun deflators set to 18psi that all are welcome to use.
        21 Aug 2015
        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        Great stuff cheers Mark.
        21 Aug 2015
        Martin
        Martin (BT50driver)
        Yep happy to share mine too.
        21 Aug 2015
        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        Awesome Martin. I really enjoy the sharing attitude of this website and the trips. There isn't enough of this attitude in the world and I'm so happy to be a part of this community.
        21 Aug 2015
        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        A lot of real beginners won't know to let their tyres down to increase traction and make the ride more comfortable. For this trip I'm guessing many won't have compressors. Great to see you guys offer.
        21 Aug 2015
        Martin
        Martin (BT50driver)
        I could be world leader then :P
        21 Aug 2015
        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        Baby steps Mark!
        21 Aug 2015
        Martin
        Martin (BT50driver)
        I just put a brand new winch bar on with a brand new winch, did it on my own and it was a pita of a job to do.
        The winch bars were stored on top of each other and the brackets that go on the car first had bend brackets so had to bend them back by hand.
        First had to take the old bullbar off ond the wanted to put the bracket on and one of the legs was also bend sideway's :(
        Out came the prybar and with a almighty kick i homed the bracked in one go (holes lined up perfectly :)
        Then on went the winch and stupid me forgot to put the cable on the winch, so had to do that after i put the bar on the bracket.
        Once finished, i noticed a 2Cm drop of the front so checked the shockers and have to replace them this weekend (replacing them all four) also have to wind the torsion bar up to get the front to the right hight.
        So moral of the story is that i saved a couple of hundred dollars but have bruises and cuts everywhere, but will do it again just because of the satisfaction of a job well done :)
        Will post some photo's this weekend.
        21 Aug 2015
        Chris Burr
        Chris Burr (Wiskey Girl)
        We have a compressor people can air up with
        Also
        21 Aug 2015
        Chris Burr
        Chris Burr (Wiskey Girl)
        We have a compressor people can air up with
        Also
        21 Aug 2015
        Dylan
        Dylan (Heno79)
        Spare one here too.
        21 Aug 2015
        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        WITHDRAWN from Trip - Reason: So sorry to withdraw but ironically I just destroyed my clutch this morning recovering another forum member's vehicle. Won't have it replaced in time.
        23 Aug 2015
        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        Hahaha. Yeah gotta laugh or cry. A certain member of this site decided to go on a solo drive (against my advice) and got himself stuck in a bog hole near whittlesea that really didn't look too bad but put him pretty much up to the chassis in mud. I had told him if he ran into trouble then to call me. Well at 5.30 this morning I got a call asking for help. Jumped in the truck and drove there and after some seriously hard tugs got him out. Then smoke started pouring out from under the hood.

        On a positive note we used thoroughly rated recovery gear and proper techniques.
        23 Aug 2015
        Martin
        Martin (BT50driver)
        Winston (Winston_NJ) wrote: Hahaha. Yeah gotta laugh or cry. A certain member of this site decided to go on a solo drive (against my advice) and got himself stuck in a bog hole near whittlesea that really didn't look too bad but put him pretty much up to the chassis in mud. I had told him if he ran into trouble then to call me. Well at 5.30 this morning I got a call asking for help. Jumped in the truck and drove there and after some seriously hard tugs got him out. Then ...
        5:30 in the morning?? He could have at least waited till 9:00 in the morning :P
        Just a pity you can't go because of this :(
        23 Aug 2015
        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        He'd been there for 4 hours before he called. And I get up at that time anyway.
        23 Aug 2015
        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        He's got one. But there was no going forward. No anchor points and even if hr buried his tyre there was no way he was getting out forwards.

        Uploading the video now.
        23 Aug 2015
        Martin
        Martin (BT50driver)
        Winston (Winston_NJ) wrote: He's got one. But there was no going forward. No anchor points and even if hr buried his tyre there was no way he was getting out forwards.

        Uploading the video now.
        looking forward to the video.
        Hope he did give you at least a slab of beer for this :)
        Only if you drink beer afcourse.
        23 Aug 2015
        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        He went halves with me for the towing.

        And who doesn't drink beer?
        23 Aug 2015
        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        He went halves with me for the towing.

        And who doesn't drink beer?
        23 Aug 2015
        Tony
        Trip Leader Tony (le Dakar)
        Sorry to hear about what happened Winston. Was looking forward to meeting you next weekend. Sounds like your building up the experience. Let me know when the video is posted. Tony.
        23 Aug 2015
        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        Video removed as this has blown out of proportion.
        23 Aug 2015
        Tony
        Trip Leader Tony (le Dakar)
        Wow. Saw the video. A shame it cost you a clutch. A couple of quick questions-
        1- What was he doing in the bog on the side of the road in the fist place?
        2-What were you using to attach to snatch straps together (looks like a large stick) ?
        Tony
        23 Aug 2015
        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        We had a winch extender and my snatch and wound one through the other with the block of wood to prevent a lock tight of both straps.
        23 Aug 2015
        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        And don't ask about why he was there.
        23 Aug 2015
        Tony
        Trip Leader Tony (le Dakar)
        Hmmmmm. I hope he did not decided to drive of the main road there just to rip up some grass (that would be the silly behaviour that gives us a very bad name and leads to more tracks being closed). In addition, that behaviour has cost you some serious coin. :-(
        Also- Safer alternative to joining two straps is to use a rolled up magazine. If a loop breaks, the magazine will fly through the air for a short distance before opening up and falling to the ground. Using the large stick you had still wind up in your rear windscreen or his front windscreen (depending on which loop broke).
        23 Aug 2015
        John
        John (AJontheloose)
        WITHDRAWN from Trip - Reason: I'm out. Have to go to Noosa for work.
        23 Aug 2015
        Allan
        Allan (allanmac) Premium Member
        Great example - NOT. Both Tony's are being very diplomatic but looking at all the ripped up grass it seems as though it maybe a bit of a 'playground' for those redneck 4wders; sorry I am not very diplomatic & to be perfectly frank, that person would not be welcome on any of my trips. I would suggest you remove the video Winston.

        On a brighter note, those attending this trip with Tony will learn heaps as well as how to be responsible 4wders. Am sure you will all have a very enjoyable and informative day.
        25 Aug 2015
        Chris Burr
        Chris Burr (Wiskey Girl)
        I feel that you have all missed what the video
        was actually relaying. It was about how someone
        helping another and them loosing their clutch
        driver did He is really a nice guy
        but has let a thrill get the better of him. I'm sure that we
        have all had these moments. Don't really think this is the place anyway
        to express these comments openly. I believe we need to educate
        them in the right protocols and ethics of 4wd. I feel sad that one of our own
        has done his clutch. That was why the video was posted.
        We all need to educate each other
        Chris
        25 Aug 2015
        Kelvin
        Kelvin (TREXGQ) Premium Member
        Don't worry guys, I will ban him from our site. I do not like 4wder like this being our members anyway. We have run over 100+ trips since we founded last year and rarely have 4wders like this.
        Like any community, there are always a few bad apples but majority of our members are responsible 4wders.
        25 Aug 2015
        Chris Burr
        Chris Burr (Wiskey Girl)
        Tony (toncastr) wrote: As I mentioned earlier - it is good that one person helped out one in need. And it is really sad that it cost him not only his time but also his clutch and half of a towing job.

        But Chris - we cannot responsibly condone someone who has gone out in the middle of the night and put themselves at risk. And we cannot in anyway support activity that tears up the side of the road - in full view of the residents or people who might ...
        Please don't get me wrong but I don't condone what was done however the video was
        put up so we could see how someone blew their clutch retrieving a vehicle.
        I know that the actions of someone has caused another damage. Hopefully
        this person will think before he does something irresponsible next time. I'm
        upset that another person has lost his vehicle being kind hearted
        in the process. There was more to this conversation other than the video.
        I am the first one to encourage safe practices but I just don't think this is the
        Place to put some comments on openly. There are yahoos out there I know but
        There was nothing in the video showing him driving through there tearing it up
        Personally I don't think he got the chance
        25 Aug 2015
        Chris Burr
        Chris Burr (Wiskey Girl)
        Sorry Mark yes it didn't make sense. I wasn't condoning
        what happened. I am upset that another person is without
        their vehicle and out of pocket. What I was trying to relay
        was the video was for us to see how the clutch blew being
        that they were retrieving a very heavy vehicle.
        I cannot comment on how this person got stuck there or what
        he was doing prior. It's a shame that people do do stupid things
        but it happens all the time. I understand everyone's comments
        I just feel that this is not the place to say it so openly
        and it should be PM. I don't want people reading
        It on this site for the same reasons we don't want people
        causing damage and not being responsible.
        25 Aug 2015
        Jason
        Jason (jasb)
        WITHDRAWN from Trip - Reason:
        25 Aug 2015
        Freya (Sparkles)
        <div style='border:1px solid #cccccc; margin:20px; padding:10px; background-color:#eeeeee;'><i><strong>Chris Burr (Wiskey Girl) </strong> wrote: I feel that you have all missed what the video
        was actually relaying. It was about how someone
        helping another and them loosing their clutch
        driver did He is really a nice guy
        but has let a thrill get the better of him. I'm sure that we
        have all had these moments. Don't really think this is the place anyway
        to express these comments openly. I believe we need to educat ... </i></div>
        26 Aug 2015
        Freya (Sparkles)
        Kelvin (TREXGQ) wrote: Don't worry guys, I will ban him from our site. I do not like 4wder like this being our members anyway. We have run over 100+ trips since we founded last year and rarely have 4wders like this.
        Like any community, there are always a few bad apples but majority of our members are responsible 4wders.
        Why ban him? Do you actually know what he was doing?
        26 Aug 2015
        Freya (Sparkles)
        Chris Burr (Wiskey Girl) wrote: Sorry Mark yes it didn't make sense. I wasn't condoning
        what happened. I am upset that another person is without
        their vehicle and out of pocket. What I was trying to relay
        was the video was for us to see how the clutch blew being
        that they were retrieving a very heavy vehicle.
        I cannot comment on how this person got stuck there or what
        he was doing prior. It's a sha ...
        Well said Chris. This is how I took the video something to learn from which is exactly what I did. It has highlighted to me the power and strength of our vehicles and the weight behind them.
        26 Aug 2015
        Tony
        Trip Leader Tony (le Dakar)
        Hi All. Weather is looking a bit iffish. Could everyone bring an umbrella (big one) as there will be a lot of standing around in a group.
        Lets make the best of it. Cheers.
        27 Aug 2015
        Chris Burr
        Chris Burr (Wiskey Girl)
        We have two so we can share with others
        Regards Chris
        27 Aug 2015
        Kelvin
        Kelvin (TREXGQ) Premium Member
        Hi everyone, just a reminder to make sure you "CHECK IN" but clicking the Check-in button on the trip page. This will let the trip leader know you are ready for the trip. If you don't check in and for some reasons you are running late, the trip leader may not wait for you.
        @Tony, I can setup our awning if needed.
        27 Aug 2015
        Kelvin
        Kelvin (TREXGQ) Premium Member
        Good idea Tony if not too much hassle for you. It's also a good opportunity to show others how to setup for bush camping / gathering.

        Is that new "Muddy" color with your new 2015 Nissan Navara ?....
        27 Aug 2015
        Kelvin
        Kelvin (TREXGQ) Premium Member
        @Tony, hahaha..... make sure you know how all the buttons work........Nissan Brighton?
        27 Aug 2015
        Kelvin
        Kelvin (TREXGQ) Premium Member
        We should talk on Sat Tony..... may be we can run a trip for those who are interested in Navara and see it in action. Make no mistake, I like Nissan 4wds. My wife have a Pathy and of course I have the old dinosaur GQ (aka TREX GQ) for the past 15 years....
        Looking forward to seeing the new truck :)
        27 Aug 2015
        Kelvin
        Kelvin (TREXGQ) Premium Member
        "die-hard 4WDers are a key market!"...........finally they have waken up......please go back to the drawing board for the new Patrol.
        27 Aug 2015
        Scott
        Scott (Stonekillerz)
        Im so pissed im not getting the chance to go on this trip looks like there is alot to learn
        28 Aug 2015
        Kelvin
        Kelvin (TREXGQ) Premium Member
        Hi all, please try to get hold of a compressor for airing up at the end of the day. Compressors may get too hot if it needs to pump up 2 cars continuously. I melted my hose last time when i helped pump up another car. You can easily get one from any auto shop.
        Also chk if you have got a jack and wheel brace for changing spare tyre in case of puncture.
        28 Aug 2015
        Tony
        Trip Leader Tony (le Dakar)
        Scott (Stonekillerz) wrote: Im so pissed im not getting the chance to go on this trip looks like there is alot to learn
        Hi Scott. We will run more fairly soon (perhaps Sep/Oct). Keep posted to this trip. When I run another, I will first send a message to everyone registered as 'Interested' on this trip so you get prior warning (1-2 days in advance). Cheers.
        28 Aug 2015
        Tony
        Trip Leader Tony (le Dakar)
        [Private Message Sent] - If you are GOING, please check your inbox.
        28 Aug 2015
        Kelvin
        Kelvin (TREXGQ) Premium Member
        Hi all, unfortunately I can't make it to the trip tomo. My wife's car has broken down and won't be fixed till Monday and she have to use car tomorrow. I am terribly sorry for any inconvenience. However, I have asked Antony (Peloza79) to assist Tony to run this beginner trip. Anthony is a great 4wder, and have a lot of High Country 4wding experience. He'd love to share his knowledge and experience with you tomorrow. So you will get to meet Tony and Anthony tomorrow. Have fun everyone, and stay safe.
        28 Aug 2015
        Kelvin
        Kelvin (TREXGQ) Premium Member
        WITHDRAWN from Trip - Reason: Hi all, unfortunately I can't make it to the trip tomo. My wife's car has broken down and won't be fixed till Monday and she have to use car tomorrow. I am terribly sorry for any inconvenience. However, I have asked Antony (Peloza79) to assist Tony to run this beginner trip. Anthony is a great 4wder, and have a lot of High Country 4wding experience. He'd love to share his knowledge and experience with you tomorrow. So you will get to meet Tony and Anthony tomorrow. Have fun everyone, and stay safe.
        28 Aug 2015
        Kelvin
        Kelvin (TREXGQ) Premium Member
        Hi all, please contact Anthony on 0403 667 835 if you have any issues. He will help Tony to run the trip.
        You will get to see his awesome twin locked 79 series tomorrow.
        28 Aug 2015
        Kelvin
        Kelvin (TREXGQ) Premium Member
        Tony (toncastr) wrote: Hi Kelvin, If you are interested - and not to far out of my way from Black Rock to the City and across the Bolte - I'm happy to pick you up in the Navara?
        Hi Tony, thanks for the offer! I have to use my TREX to take my wife to her appointment and my kids to Sat school. That's the main reason I can't make the trip. Her pathfinder has broken down and she can't drive manual :(
        28 Aug 2015
        Kelvin
        Kelvin (TREXGQ) Premium Member
        I know Tony! ... this is how I spent the day http://tinyurl.com/npejvna (waiting my wife and kids in my TREX checking all the 4wd update from Anthony :(

        That's awesome to hear the NP300 performed well. I'd love to see more photos and videos. If you wish, we can feature it in our monthly newsletter about this trip.

        I have to say a BIG THANK YOU to both Tony and Anthony who could help fill my spot at the last minute to help out. Tony has done an awesome job preparing for the trip. There are so much to share, and so much to learn from real experience, not textbook or from magazine.

        Honestly, we (true 4wders) would love to see the tough side of a new 4wd. I am very glad to see Nissan is willing to let you take it to offroad.

        I'd love to run more beginner / introduction trip in Nov when most of the tracks are opened and warmer. Please stay tuned.

        Please upload your photos here and LIKE our facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/4wdtrip

        Also, feel free to post any questions at our Forum. Our community is very active and love to help everyone.

        Cheers

        Kelvin
        29 Aug 2015
        Tony
        Trip Leader Tony (le Dakar)
        Tony (toncastr) wrote: Sorry Kelvin - you missed an AWESOME day.

        And the Navara NP300 was the best performer. When you have standard traction control, hill descent and rear diff locks - well it seems any idiot can go most places in an NP300. When that idiot has tyres with way too high pressures - well it makes that car so much better.

        Glad Tony and Anthony did not get me to do one track as Richard Emery would have been ve ...
        Awesome vehicle Tony. I was quite impressed watching the traction control working coming up Mountain track up to Mt Hickey. It seemed to do it the easiest and allowed for a slow gentle climb. Sitting inside the Navara makes it all look very easy and in great comfort as well. The heated seats make it hard to keep awake. Thanks for coming along. Cheers.
        30 Aug 2015
        Andrew
        Andrew (whipit)
        https://youtu.be/yITcp4eTErU

        short video
        30 Aug 2015
        Martin
        Martin (BT50driver)
        Just posted here and also a 11 minute video.
        http://www.4wdtrip.com.au/offroad/social/forum/read.aspx?originalpostid=3304&forumid=9&pg=1#3313
        30 Aug 2015
        Tony
        Trip Leader Tony (le Dakar)
        [Private Message Sent] - If you are GOING, please check your inbox.
        31 Aug 2015
        Stephen
        Stephen (Phtfox)
        Gday all. I know this was discussed a while ago but i just want to clarify things. I am the guy that winston recoverd a couple weeks back when he fried his clutch. Now i know use all believe in 4wders doing the right thing and being in the right place. I totally agree with that. Theres more to the story. Yes i know i was bogged in a hole that i shouldnt of been in and there was a reason i was there. I got ancall from a bloke i know who was stuck in there and all i was doing was recovering him when i fell into the hole without relising and since i was trying to recover i was on the gas trying to get him out witch dug me in further. And him being in a stock navara no experience he couldnt get me out. And yes i know use will all say that he was doing the wrong thing in a place he shouldnt be and yes i agree but he was given the car as a present of his old ladt 2 days befor and couldnt help himself going out for a drive and showing of to his misses for browni points (we have all done that) being his first 4wd he had no idea on wer to go what to do so he decided to get of the gravel and have some fun on the grass when he got stuck. Believe me or not thats ur oppinion bit i came to rescue him from being stuck for 3 hours after i finaly got rescued from mt dissapointment on a very stead rocky hill (that was completly legal to be on) that snapped my winch rope twice and having to get someone of a recovery site to come over an hour to rescue me. I was stuck on this hill for 5 hours after trying to rescue myself then waiting for this awsome guy to come and reacue me. Then heading down there to rescue this guy who shouldnt of been there. I was then stuck there for a further 4 hours until winston the legend came to my rescue witch i ow a hell of a lot to. The point im getting at is i may only be 22 but i still stick by the rules. Trust me after being stuck myself for 5 hours the last thing i wanted to do was joy ride on a little grass patch of a gravel road for "shits and giggles"
        I understand why use wer all upset at someone doing this and just wanted to clarify i was only trying to do the right hing and hope that i am able to remaine a member on this page as it offers hreat oppertunitys to get out have some fun and meet some extremely awsome people such as winston. Thanks
        05 Sep 2015
        Winston
        Winston (Winston_FJ) Premium Member
        Sorry that's my fault. I didn't know all the details until Stephen clarified it to me.
        05 Sep 2015
        Stephen
        Stephen (Phtfox)
        I did go for a solo drive. Started as just an easy cruise just to get out the house i went down a track witch then became a steap down hill witch i went down quite easy then to find that it was a dead end and had to go back up witch i could only drive 5 meters up being about a 50 meter hill i had no chance winch up 3/4 and rope snapped twice making that unusable. Diffed out on 35s 4 inch lift (stupid place to be alone yes i no. Didnt plan on doing anything hard by myself). It was after that that i got a call saying this other bloke was stuck so once i was recoverd i went out to recover him on my way home. But plans dont always go that way
        05 Sep 2015
        Kelvin
        Kelvin (TREXGQ) Premium Member
        @Winston, @Stephen, thanks for letting us know the actual details. A good take out.... never go solo drive to an unknown area at night. That's one of the main reasons I founded 4WDTRIP website so that for those would like to go for a drive (even a last minute trip), you should post a trip here and go with someone. There are always people interested.
        All good.....
        05 Sep 2015
        Chris Burr
        Chris Burr (Wiskey Girl)
        Stephen just Mark it down to experience.
        People have their views and opinions and you know
        that's life. Greg and I are looking forward to our next trip to
        Walhalla with you coming along. We will all have a fantastic weekend
        See you there
        05 Sep 2015
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        TRIP COMPLETED

        10 GOING, 22 Interested
        15 adults , 5 children (20 in total)
        Trip Date
        Sat, 29-Aug-2015

        Meeting Point
        Corner Horans Track and Broadford Flowerdale Road
        8:30 AM (Sat, 29-Aug-2015)

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        Tony

        Tony (le Dakar)

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